It is interesting that you can look at a document many times and not realize you missed some information or did not realize some information was missing.
In the Post "52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks: Uncertainty," I wrote about the uncertainty of when my great-grandfather George Iles came to Canada from England. Was it 1903 or 1904? He was not on the passenger list with the rest of the family. I have yet to find a list with him on. This past week, I realized that several of my grandfather's siblings were not on the passenger list with him.
George and Emily (nee Pugh) had eight children: Edith Emily (1883), William George (1885), Alice (1888), Ethel (1890), Albert Valentine (1892), Emmanuel James (1895), Harold Edward (1897), and Lillian Ruth (1900).
There are two passenger lists for the family:
1. the list created for their departure from England
2. the list created for their arrival in Canada
UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
They departed Liverpool, 27 April 1905 on board SS Ottawa of the Dominion Line.
Columns: Ticket #, Names of Passengers; Adults; Children; Infants; Profession, Calling or Occupation of Passenger; the next columns are divided under English/Scotch/Irish Foreigners and within each male and female under: Age of each Adult 12 years and upwards Married / Single; Ages of children between 1 and 12; Infants
Ticket # 5178
Emily Iles, Housewife, 44 [she is the wife of George]
Lily, Domestic, 21 [she is the wife of William]
William, Laborer, 20
Edith, Domestic, 22 [sister of William]
Albert, child, 11 [brother of William]
Emmanuel, child, 9 [brother of William]
Harold, child, 7 [brother of William]
Lily, child, 4 [sister of William]
Emily, infant [daughter of William and Lily -- should be Edith May]
Missing from the list are Alice and Ethel.
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
British Bonus: a commission paid by the Canadian government's Immigration Branch to steamship booking agents in the United Kingdom for each suitable immigrant who purchased a ticket to sail to Canada. The immigrants themselves did not receive a bonus.
The Canadian Passenger List provides different information.
- No. of Passengers.
- Number of Railway Order.
- Amount of Cash. To be filled in by Immigration Agent at Port of Landing.
- Name of Passenger.
- Age of Adults.
- Children under 14 years of age.
- Able to
- Read
- Write
- Married or Single.
- Profession, Occupation, or Calling of Passengers.
- Nation or Country of Birth.
- Counties in British Isles from which Passenger came.
- Births at Sea.
- Deaths at Sea.
- Place of ultimate destination of Passengers excepting “Tourists and returned Canadians,” who are to be so described.
For the family, ages for children are stamped over with "British Bonus Allowed" All are shown as from Gloucester. All are going to Owen Sound
Emily Isles, 44 Wife [looks like RR written over something] [She is mother of William, Edith, Albert, Emanuel, Harold, and Lily].
Lilly, 21, domestic
William, 20, labourer [RR added]
Edith, domestic
Albert, son
Emanuel, son
Harold, son
Lily, daughter
Edith, (written in larger script as if a correction was made) daughter [daughter of Lilly and William not Emily]
The missing two girls travelled together on board the Tunisian leaving Liverpool, 6 October 1904. -- Why did Ethel and Alice go before the rest of the family?
On the Outward bound passenger list, they are listed as what looks like child, but are counted in the adult line as both were over 12. Alice is 16 and Ethel 14 Their ticket number is not near the number of the others listed on the page, so it looks like they did not travel with someone else.
On the Canadian Passenger list, both Alice and Ethel are shown as Domestics from Gloucester and bound for Owen Sound.
The Iles family had been living in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England. Not everyone in the family was born in Gloucestershire.
Not all information on forms will be correct. It will be only as good as the person providing the information and the person recording the information.
Next steps: I will need to update the family history story with the information about Ethel and Alice. New questions come to mind. How did the family feel when George left? Was it difficult for them to say goodbye to Alice and Ethel as they left to cross the ocean on their own? What were William's wife Emily Lily's feelings as she had to say good-bye to her mother and sister?
Sources:
UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 [database on-line]. Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Outwards Passenger Lists. BT27. Records of the Commercial, Companies, Labour, Railways and Statistics Departments. Records of the Board of Trade and of successor and related bodies. The National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey, England viewed on Ancestry.ca
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 [database on-line].Library and Archives Canada; Ottawa, Ontario, Canada; Series: RG 76-C; Roll: T-484 viewed on Ancestry.ca
Information from Library and Archives Canada website re Immigration
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Great post! I love passenger lists and being able to glean different info from each one...
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